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	<title>Comments on: Wrong: Capital Punishment</title>
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		<title>By: Ana</title>
		<link>http://septicscompanion.com/blog/2008/11/capital-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-3808</link>
		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would describe myself as a liberal. I&#039;m also for the death penalty...in a different form. Agreed in that as it currently stands, it&#039;s not much of a deterrent. 

I think part of the problem is that imprisoning people, and keeping death row inmates alive for as long as possible, is a very profitable enterprise in the US. @Daniel: Even inmates who don&#039;t have much in the way of funds often live long enough to die natural deaths while in the pipeline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would describe myself as a liberal. I&#8217;m also for the death penalty&#8230;in a different form. Agreed in that as it currently stands, it&#8217;s not much of a deterrent. </p>
<p>I think part of the problem is that imprisoning people, and keeping death row inmates alive for as long as possible, is a very profitable enterprise in the US. @Daniel: Even inmates who don&#8217;t have much in the way of funds often live long enough to die natural deaths while in the pipeline.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://septicscompanion.com/blog/2008/11/capital-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-1709</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American death penalty is actually a form of economic darwinism, if you have insufficient funds you die to free up resources for those who do.

This has nothing to do with innocence or guilt.
  
( how many rich people get the penalty? look it up )

Naomi, death row is where these losers-of-the-game are allowed to be a revenue source long enough to make society feel less guilt about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American death penalty is actually a form of economic darwinism, if you have insufficient funds you die to free up resources for those who do.</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with innocence or guilt.</p>
<p>( how many rich people get the penalty? look it up )</p>
<p>Naomi, death row is where these losers-of-the-game are allowed to be a revenue source long enough to make society feel less guilt about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi</title>
		<link>http://septicscompanion.com/blog/2008/11/capital-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m against it - and the way America keeps you hanging about is horrendous - a cruel and unusual punishment if ever I saw one, to be on &#039;death row&#039; for years with umpteen last minute cancellations.....you must have tons of last meals....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m against it &#8211; and the way America keeps you hanging about is horrendous &#8211; a cruel and unusual punishment if ever I saw one, to be on &#8216;death row&#8217; for years with umpteen last minute cancellations&#8230;..you must have tons of last meals&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dvd Avins</title>
		<link>http://septicscompanion.com/blog/2008/11/capital-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Dvd Avins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In short, there are people who deserve to have their lives forfeit, but there is no society yet fit to make that judgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In short, there are people who deserve to have their lives forfeit, but there is no society yet fit to make that judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Merchant</title>
		<link>http://septicscompanion.com/blog/2008/11/capital-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Merchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now here is something we totally agree on!  Though against the death penalty due to the theorised average of 4 out of 10 inmates on death row being actually innocent of the crimes for which they will be put to death (that is not to say they have not committed other crimes which may also warrant the death penalty under US law, but have simply not been convicted of such crimes), I can at least rationally see that if they are going to do it, at least do it right.  For example, death in the public spaces like in a town centre for one-- beheading is a time honoured favourite and I am sure works much better as a deterrent than the sterilised approach to lethal injection- who does that deter if only a handful of people get to see it?  Typically the audience of the lethal injection or gas chamber execution in the US is primarily made up of the victims family, a few members of the press and the family of the accused-- not in my opinion a great outreach of deterrence in my opinion.

I think its simply down to America being a punitive culture-- they are not interested so much in deterrence, but in punishing &#039;wrong-doers&#039; of their once fine country.  An idea which we can observe in the fairly small time in which the US has existed, a mere 221 years of American history found in most history books paints the very deeply troubled culture of &#039;spare the rod, spoil the child&#039; attitude of the protestants settlers of the New World. I argue that this attitude still permeates the American ethos today. Its too bad really that a nation with so much potential could get it all so very wrong many times over, thus why many Americans choose to leave and never look back.  Their loss really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now here is something we totally agree on!  Though against the death penalty due to the theorised average of 4 out of 10 inmates on death row being actually innocent of the crimes for which they will be put to death (that is not to say they have not committed other crimes which may also warrant the death penalty under US law, but have simply not been convicted of such crimes), I can at least rationally see that if they are going to do it, at least do it right.  For example, death in the public spaces like in a town centre for one&#8211; beheading is a time honoured favourite and I am sure works much better as a deterrent than the sterilised approach to lethal injection- who does that deter if only a handful of people get to see it?  Typically the audience of the lethal injection or gas chamber execution in the US is primarily made up of the victims family, a few members of the press and the family of the accused&#8211; not in my opinion a great outreach of deterrence in my opinion.</p>
<p>I think its simply down to America being a punitive culture&#8211; they are not interested so much in deterrence, but in punishing &#8216;wrong-doers&#8217; of their once fine country.  An idea which we can observe in the fairly small time in which the US has existed, a mere 221 years of American history found in most history books paints the very deeply troubled culture of &#8216;spare the rod, spoil the child&#8217; attitude of the protestants settlers of the New World. I argue that this attitude still permeates the American ethos today. Its too bad really that a nation with so much potential could get it all so very wrong many times over, thus why many Americans choose to leave and never look back.  Their loss really.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve always been torn on this. The better half of me--that wants to be as liberal and European as possible--just wants to agree that it is a crap idea. The other half of me thinks that some things are so horrific and so appalling that death is justice. Maybe that is a primitive lobe of my brain, but I have to tell you I was pleased to know Obama and I share that view. That was our first bonding experience after Hillary lost the primary. :) I think you lose your Human Rights when you rape and kill and with DNA testing now, it seems as if we won&#039;t have cases of innocent folks being killed by the state. :( Ugly topic, but good conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve always been torn on this. The better half of me&#8211;that wants to be as liberal and European as possible&#8211;just wants to agree that it is a crap idea. The other half of me thinks that some things are so horrific and so appalling that death is justice. Maybe that is a primitive lobe of my brain, but I have to tell you I was pleased to know Obama and I share that view. That was our first bonding experience after Hillary lost the primary. <img src='http://septicscompanion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think you lose your Human Rights when you rape and kill and with DNA testing now, it seems as if we won&#8217;t have cases of innocent folks being killed by the state. <img src='http://septicscompanion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Ugly topic, but good conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Moring</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Moring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree. Get it done, and let&#039;s all get on with our lives at much less tax-payers expense.

Pete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree. Get it done, and let&#8217;s all get on with our lives at much less tax-payers expense.</p>
<p>Pete.</p>
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